Is It Cheating If Your Partner Cheated First?

Would you flip draft picks for Bronny James if it guaranteed you also landed LeBron James? We start there and immediately run into the real questions NBA fans argue about every day: what’s the actual price of a superstar, how does roster fit change everything, and is LeBron better treated like a power forward at this point in his career. We also talk about what that move could mean for Bronny’s minutes, development, and whether riding with your dad feels like a dream situation or a retirement tour you’d rather skip.

Then the conversation jumps from basketball into the loud world of sports media and celebrity narratives. We get into the constant churn of NBA shows, why it’s easy to burn out on nonstop debate content, and how quickly platforms switch directions when a contract ends. From there, we unpack the LaVar Ball and Lonzo Ball relationship headlines and the bigger issue behind them: when a public figure shares personal details, the internet doesn’t treat it like a private moment, it treats it like a storyline. We argue over what counts as cheating, whether “living your truth” helps or hurts, and how double standards shape the reaction.

We close with a fast-moving culture run: Lil Wayne tour drama and what fans are owed when tickets aren’t cheap, Drake streamer clips and Saucy Santana’s clapbacks, and a real debate on BET Awards choices like Kendrick Lamar winning again versus artists who arguably had the bigger year. We even touch Zeus Network celebrity boxing, including Ray J vs Orlando Brown, while giving props to Clarissa Shields for building a bigger platform for women’s boxing. If you like NBA rumors, hip hop news, and unfiltered sports and culture talk, tap in, then subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review. What part do you disagree with most?

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Transcript

Welcome Back And Quick Shoutouts

SPEAKER_02 0:02

What's going on, P Jon? What's time with this another episode of D Leaks Vise Podcast, your favorite amateur podcast? You can find it wherever you get your podcast, but only boy is great. Man, what do what it is? You're another badge, your boy, Mr. Bell. AKA say your name up on this pie. Bye down for which you the mile. What's up, Courtney? Hey man, vibe it in person. Vibe in person. But shout out Jersey. You know what I'm saying? She lives in South Carolina, so can't really vibe in person. And we in Kentucky. But you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Jersey. Uh let's

Trading For Bronny To Get LeBron

SPEAKER_02 0:38

let me start. Uh saudes, and I wanna ask you, because I got some shit I wanna say. Would you trade for Bronny James if you knew you was gonna get LeBron? If I'm gonna serve a team or just it's any team. Any team. Any team. I mean pennies on the dollar, yeah. I'd give you I can give a couple picks on you. If I'm gonna get LeBron, yeah. You talking first round picks or like second round picks? Second rounds. Okay. Multiple? I'd give up to four, five, you won. Okay. If it was the Knicks, what you do? Uh for some picks, yes. For some first round picks? I mean, second whoa, whoa, second round picks, second round picks. Yeah. You would give up some second round picks to give up LeBron James and Brianny James. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm not giving up. Yeah, no, no players, no first.

unknown 1:31

Nah.

SPEAKER_02 1:32

Okay, okay. Uh I respect it. Uh to me, I think it depends on the team, depends on the situation. Uh you die for him then. You said what? You die for him then. You no, if you give a couple picks for him, okay. It depends on the team. No, LeBron don't my pace is LeBron. Don't fit. Or he's gonna

Team Fit And Bronny’s Minutes

SPEAKER_02 2:00

play it. Because like I've been saying, LeBron got played power forward at this point. We we got Pascal. I'm not gonna give up Pascal for like a year of LeBron. So first, I would I wouldn't do it. For y'all, it's different because of the fact y'all put Kat at the five, y'all can put LeBron at the four and put OG at the three and Miles at the two, and then y'all got big body Brunson at the one. So for y'all it's different. Then y'all can have Bronny come out the well, Ronnie probably won't play for y'all because y'all got Jose Alvarado. We got Dev. And y'all got Bridges. So, as it were in the Lakers, if I'm Bronny though, if you Bronley, would you want to leave LA? Knowing that more than likely you gonna play. It's a good team. It's construct on paper, it's constructed to their team. I can I can be on this team and compete. I was gonna say I'm and I'm gonna be able to have a playing spot because simple fact currently has constructed. And we talked about this earlier in pre-agnostic, but he ain't best for him to defender. Even though he's six-foot, he might be six one, but I think he's just six-foot. He ain't best for him to defense, defender. So when they need to stop, Bronny gonna play. So if I'm Bronny, I don't know if I won't be on your fur world tour. Hey, girls, I it's not a third world tour for me. They be trying to look, they'll be trying to get him to retire in the papers by mistake. I'm still gonna be in the league, hopefully. What you doing? I think it's possible because, like I said, he'll get the field. So I'm still gonna be in the league.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

Nah, bro, go go do your thing over, and I'm gonna I'm gonna chill over here and get to my own bag and build out my own legacy.

LeBron As A Granddad Debate

SPEAKER_01 3:44

So if I'm bronny, I'm it's a retirement tour for me, cuz you still my daddy, so you know, you see Bronny uh Bronny got a baby on the way.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

LeBron the first granddaddy in the NBA. Hey, that might be that might be accurate. I'm sitting here thinking I can't, I can't think of no other time when it was a grandfather, because I don't think the only person that was like that, like, hmm, nah. Uh Robert Parish was in the league for a minute. So maybe one of his kids might have been uh uh grand uh made him a grandfather at that at one point. See now I gotta Google this. If if there was another grandfather that played in the in the NBA, because LeBron just uh making all type of records.

SPEAKER_03 4:40

They were played in the NBA. Yeah, no, I think that's uh that's an interesting one to Yeah, they said several grandfather, uh Robert Parrish, Kenyan Willis, Ben S Carter.

SPEAKER_02 4:58

Damn, Miss Carter. So that do make sense. So yeah, LeBron ain't gonna get that first. His grandchild more than likely will be his last name. Because I thought she put it in. Damn so much. But uh, you think how many more years you think LeBron got? I see he won a two-year deal, and um I mean, get that because what if what if after that first one, you know, he had that what they say, that Britt Farb year, that really good year, and then that last you had that really good one that you know you better turn it in. Get that second chase back. I I think he'll do. I think he'll do the one. No, I was gonna say, I think he's done it, especially if he has a good year. All right, because I'm I'm gonna go ahead and go out on top. I ain't even gonna, I ain't even gonna have around. Because I seen what Tom Brady did. Tom Brady's last year. He was why he wasn't bad, but he wasn't what he was, like you said, the year before. So Brian probably looked at that, like, yeah, nah, I'm gonna go ahead and roll out after a good year. I don't, you know what I'm saying? We'll see where LeBron goes. Shout out to Dion from our perspective, whenever he decides we can go, where he's going, we'll drop the

Gil’s Arena Changes And LaVar Talk

SPEAKER_02 6:13

eye episode. But uh speaking of basketball people, LeVar Ball. Oh, well, first LeBron Ball's probably going to Gil's ring, from what I heard. What happened with that? I know, I know they they fired Gil. And then uh, okay. From what Gil is saying, the contract was up. So I didn't get fired. His contract. His contract was up. So my show though. I because they changed the name to the arena.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

So so his contract was up. I don't know if that show's gonna continue from underdog. Because once you lose, you lose gill. They lost the rest up, too. They said all of them got fired. Oh, well, I was gonna say, Rashad McKiss. I think he was trying to stay. He was, and they said they uh Nick Young said they fired him in the in the costume. They said they fired the mascot. Oh man. He was in his jumper still when they fired him.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

So what happened? Okay, what do they do? So they're gonna just build another show around Skip.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

I think that's what they're gonna do. They're gonna give Skip his own show and send everybody else to after passion. Y'all figure it out. So LeBron Ball's supposed to be going on to the Gills and we did the show. Uh what I saw. We Gill or the Skip show? No, we Gill. Okay, okay. Because I saw the clip where Gil, everything's still at his crib. So, because they created another studio, but they got Gil still got his. Uh, do you want to see LaBarbaugh on the Gills? I ain't gonna hold you, bro. I don't I don't listen to those no more for real. You'll listen to them. It's too many NBA shows. I felt like that took off real, real, real fast. And I I endorged in it at first, and then I said, all right, this is kind of too much. Everybody got a platform, everybody. So I I dialed back off the BBA podcast. I'm trying to ask that. So the gills, I never was like being into the gills arena. I watched it the clips, yeah. The clip because y'all all they always was in the song, so y'all always arguing with somebody, so I was adversity over, and then Gil, he's on ESPN doing guest spots, him and Cameron on first thing. So, but as much people as hell and shit, people give Stephen A, he do be putting people on.

LaVar, Lonzo, And Relationship Rumors

SPEAKER_02 8:51

But uh, all right, so LeBron, he was doing an interview and he said that his wife cheated on him, and she left. Well, he left her. Cool. Uh what's Lonzo? Lonzo did a Lonzo did another interview. I guess he got a podcast, him and his brother, him and I think him and Jello. They uh they was talking, he said, man, that ain't really the most accurate. My mother was forced to leave and she did cheat. Who do you think telling the truth? Or do you think maybe Lazo's telling the truth that he knows? That's what I was about to say. Okay, he's telling his truth. He wasn't there, and you don't know the league, bro. You don't know what was going on in Chino. Well, I mean, at the time though, was he in the league? I mean, this last year he was in the league. But Lazo was hurt for a year like a year and a half, two years. He wasn't home, though. He was re with the team. Man, you don't know what's going on at Chino, boy. You speaking, hey, you speaking on grown folks' business, boy. You don't know what you're talking about. LeBoard can't, and that's the thing. LeBar tried to keep it cool. He didn't really, you know, come out and bash or nothing like that. That's why I'm more inclined to believe him. Or I ain't say believe him, but uh, I don't think he's lying on what he said.

unknown 10:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

You nurse a you nurse a duck back to health, it's either gonna stay or fly away. I mean, apparently she this duck went out there and found her another nest to roost up in. You know, you you down one leg, you, you the you the the the goose with a broken leg. And what she doing? She got here sneaking, sneaking and creeping.

unknown 10:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Just playing devil's advocate, right? What if LeBoc out there? Wow, honey. Look, what if, you know what I'm saying? Because LeVoc, let's be real, LeBron probably was feeling himself for a minute. He was all on ESPN, he was all on um FS1 after he made some comments and got ESPN. He was like, We ain't fooling with you no more. He was on FS1 with Skip and uh Shannon. Shannon, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

Uh what if, you know what I'm saying? He was feeling himself in.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

She just got her get back. Is she wrong? She ain't right. She ain't right. Hey, I used to watch the show, man. She was off, she was down bad, man. That lady could barely talk, move. And like I said, I'm just going on what he said. She ain't came out and said nothing, but I mean, I said I did. So and like I said, that's another thing. You you speaking your truth. They don't want you to. Who was it? The the Curries. Same thing with the Curries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dale Curry and them, they all lived in retirement. He with his new person, she with her new person. We don't know what happened. We just see y'all with two different people to know each other. True, true. Yeah, he I think he he kind of overstepped because you gave it, he didn't really have legs before Islam said anything. It was all just, you know, LeBar said they broke up. Nah, bro, it was getting a little circulation. He did well. Yeah, because he said she cheated. If he had, if he had just said they broke up, it wouldn't have got as much circulation as it did. But once she said, hey, once he said, nah, she cheated, she was she was she was cheating on me. Magic, like I said, he didn't do too much in the interview. He just said she cheated on me. He didn't like go wild, go crazy. It could have been just, you know, she would take somebody else. Because cheating is different for most people. Some people go straight to sleeping with. Could be flirtation or whatever, whatever the case might be for everybody. But I don't know, bro. I'm kinda if LeBron was feeling itself and he went out here and she decided to get her get back. Well I'm saying though, she had to wait until she got healthy to get her get back. That's what makes it shit. You had to think about that all this time while you only have your body work, and then you want to jump up here, and that's the first thing you do is go out here and and text somebody else. Okay, but what if it wasn't the first thing? I mean, it obviously wasn't the first thing she did because she couldn't do nothing. I'm saying, hold on. Because you're talking about like he had to help her get back to that. See, I ain't done about that. I know she was taking care of him, but he he lost his leg. Yeah. So I helped you. You barely he helped her. Cool. We even now we gotta get even in this aspect of the violence. Hey, I'm not mad at what I'm saying is she got get cheated on 13 times before to get her link back. And they say, hey, a nippy can cheat, a man. Well, let me say, a man can cheat 12 times. They they found out that girl takes somebody, it's worse. Is that you feel like that's true? Hey, it's facts. That's big facts. So he she probably just she probably just went to lunch with somebody. Something simple. Something simple. Levi out here like, nah, it won't cheat it on me. She did. She did thumb. She did. She went out here and got a free meal.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

She had lunch with a friend. You can't have lunch with your friends?

SPEAKER_03 14:34

Not that friend Michael Jordan.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

Hey, bro, Levi used to say some wow stuff. Not that friend, Michael Jordan. But to his credit, all three of his boys did make it to the league. So, but nah, but wait a minute,

What Counts As Cheating Anyway

SPEAKER_02 14:52

tap down. Lunch is lunch, regardless of who probably lunch is, but that makes it okay. You have lunch with your friend? You can't have lunch with your friend? I don't know. I I guess I guess I upset. Nah, me and my friend have lunch. Yeah, no, it's cool. Ain't nothing wrong with lunch. Lunch? I ain't saying, you know, y'all could continuously having multiple lunches. Then we having a different conversation. What lunch? Hey, bruh, that ain't that. What about dinner? Is dinner cool? It's dinner. Same thing. We just grabbing some food, bruh. Just cause just because the restaurant dimmed the lights, don't mean it's it's that, you know, it's some it's something more than what it is. We just we just having food. Hey, it's just lunch. We just eat. Alright, so is LeBar wrong for exposing that? Knowing that y'all, you know, y'all a high-profile family out here. I mean, he ain't go too heavy on it, but why even bring it up? I'm pretty sure that the streamer asked him where she was at. Maybe that happened, but even then, you can keep it quiet. Oh, she at the crib, you know, she chillin'. Or you just like we ain't too, we no longer together. But uh, he just living his truth. His truth. It's not like you don't think he cheated. She cheated. I'm not saying she didn't. I'm just saying he living his truth. What if LeBob's like her trying to play Vic? Because he knows he's going through the situation with his leg. And now she left. She tried to flip the he trying to flip the script. Like, yeah, she cheated on me. So I can get more sympathy from the public. I'm just saying, what if? I don't know if that's the case. I'm saying, what if he don't take me as that type of dude? So I will. He don't. Quack quick play. Hey, bro. Quack, quit playing, bro. He he don't take you as the type to get the sympathy from the internet to have the internet on his side. I'm on my good foot right now. I said he he's been legless for a little minute. This ain't nothing new. I don't think he needs that to get the head on his side. You don't think he's the type to do that though? In this instance. Let's be real, bro. In this instance. Any instance. He was on his bro. He talking about he had this great career, bro. Averaged like 0.7 or something like that, bro. What are we? Yeah, bro. He would have done that. Just saying. I think, I think. Not saying that's what he did. Again, clarification. I'm not saying that's what he did. He's done it in the past. But I feel like I don't think it's too far. But what we always say, man, prayers to everybody involved. Shout out to them. Shout out to the uh shout out to the kids.

Jello’s Music Run And Big Baller Brand

SPEAKER_01 17:52

Uh have you heard anything from Jell O since he did that? At one hour.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

You know what I meant. He had a second song come out after that one.

SPEAKER_01 18:04

Yeah, when it would glow. What's it glow? I feel like his second song was with glow.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

Yeah. I forgot about that. Damn, that's crazy. He came and went again. I was just asking, because you, you know, you listen to the new rappers a little more than I do. So I was just asking. All right, that's that's crazy. You know, bro, I feel like you and then it wasn't him. I guess I took off the only reason he got to listen because of the name.

unknown 18:32

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

Because I remember you, because you know, plus you in the ball family, because you was at her bath and girl. What was the shoes? Big ball of bread. Bro, you was at her bath and shoes. You had the shoes. I was a supporter. Support black businesses. I was the original.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

That's why I thought maybe you knew if he had more joints, cuz you supported the brand.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

I don't know about that. All I know is he uh he on the pile with Lonzo right now. He still ain't made it back to the league. So he's a rapper now. So, you know what I'm saying? If he's still rapping, hey, good luck. Hopefully, you can catch another one. Because that's all that's on Will's hot. It did uh I can't think of the name. I'm about to say, what's the name of it? Can't think of the name of him right now. And that sounds bad, but the song was hot for a little bit. Then when Wayne got on the remix. Let's not even take it to Wayne, man. Let's go and take it to

Lil Wayne Tour No Show Fallout

SPEAKER_02 19:25

Wayne. I hate to do it too. That's my boy.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

That is your boy.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Wayne missed the first night of his uh, what is it, 20-year tour, 30-year tour? Hey, that's the first night. Left them had them folks looking crazy out there. They said uh two chains was the opener. Two chains went out there and performed his set, and they just played Wayne hits for the rest of the night. DJ did. They look up where Wayne at at the white party. Performing. Performing at the white party. He had to get his vocals right for that. Now I I give I cut Wheezy a lot of sled, you feel me? I done missed out on seeing Wayne before.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Did you miss out?

SPEAKER_02 20:10

Wayne Wayne was at Yes, bro. I missed out. Wayne was at uh out of gangs over too. On the Wayne tour? Yeah. Certain days. Mm. Is it is it coming to uh to a city near? Lexington, Kentucky. Ah, be missing that one. Oh no, that was the last one. Yeah. Oh, it ain't even this one. Yeah, the uh the Lexington, Kentucky's the last tour. My bad. Go ahead then. Uh nah, uh Wayne, uh Lady's Lex, October. That's still the right. That's a that's a ways away. It's an album and a half. I'm saying October's a minute away, and then Lex is a is a is a minute away. Absolutely. I'm trying to run down the yum, catch it, shoot back across the bridge. Um yeah, nah, I I get Wayne a lot. I cut him a lot of slack, because you know, hardworking man. You've been doing this nonstop for 20 years, 25 years, damn good. Damn, longer than that. Almost 30, you might as well say.

unknown 21:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

Wayne, you better stop overbooking, man. Take some of that stuff off your plate, man. Low-key broadly the uh a clone out here or something. I don't know if he forgot about forgot he had the show. Was it priorities? You know, Michael Rubin called, I mean, I guess when he called, you're supposed to go. But it it's a bad look. Especially for everybody involved, the fans. You got two changes there and and You know how he did. You got you got, you know, it's a whole, it's a plethora of things. A plethora of upsetting things. I'll I'll never go see a Wayne show because of that. So did you that was the first night of the tour? Did you hear about the second night of the tour? Was that when he showed up late and showed up two, three hours late? And got up here and did two songs and then was like, peace. Wayne is well, they had to DJ, they showed they had to take the DJ. The DJ was on the on the video screen. But you could tell he he was cussing, he was fussing. And you could read some of the lips, and he said Wayne. And then they had to they had to abruptly pull his face. They had to go to the black screen because they knew, bruh. You got two two chains is a respectable artist, right? Two chains got joints, two cane, two chains got his. I think three at this point. Three maybe four. Remember, I stopped to the virgin shirt. Sure. You don't remember the virgin shit? I think I said it over the pod. Alright, so anyway, I stopped in the version. Yeah. She would flake every time. Yeah. Flake every time. She finally showed up. She finally showed up one time. I think this was like my the fourth attempt. And then she went back to flaking. Yeah, it does. Can't do nothing with you. Ain't no future with you, because you you know what I'm saying? You unreliable. You wasn't reliable. That's all it takes is one time for you to show me. Hey, I gave one too many times with her. Look, bruh, graduated from uh nursery school. Bought a little uh personalized candle. This was after time she showed up. Never seen it again. Hey, went right back to Blake. Oh shoot a candle? Look, bruh, sent the picture and all that, and she was like, Oh my god, video, trigger eye, all this extra shit. Hey, you turn eye, but you can't come get this motherfucker. Oh, she never got it. No, right, never see her again. Wow. I'm not mad at it. Hey, that person's last candle was not cheap. Oh no, no, no. That that I am mad at. That I am mad at it. Yeah, no, uh, I'll take it. Hey, Wayne, I hope one day I get to see you somewhere, like at a waterfront Wednesday or something, or something for free. You know what I'm saying? They uh they be having stuff at the waterfront all the time. So if you want to ever come to Louisville and do a free show at the waterfront, stay for Wayne as well. A Wayne Waterfront Wednesday every week, every week this month. Give me one of those. You got a whole week to prepare, my boy. I'll be there front row or center. But as far as paying to come see you, he won't.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

He won't be front row, he won't be centered. He won't be center stage, fast stage, he won't even be in the little paying to come see you, Wayne?

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Ah, like I said, I done seen enough Wayne in my life. I done watched all your tours on YouTube. I don't watch all your little movies, your documentaries, all that, your music videos. I done seen enough Wayne. I could die a happy man without, you know, knowing I never saw you in person, live and in concert. Because you're doing shit like this, shit that don't make no sense. Real quick, before I move on.

Wayne’s Legacy And The Drop Off Question

SPEAKER_02 29:05

I ain't asked for your top five, but is Wayne in your top five all the time? Oh yeah.

unknown 29:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

Yeah, yeah. Now he doesn't. I feel like what he's done so far. So far? I ain't gonna say so far. Like what he's done. What he's done in his life. Because he got done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I says it's over. Like it got to the point where, you know, you used to clamor for that new album. Oh, you know, that new Wayne coming out. You know, is it gonna be this? Is it gonna be that? We done got past that point now. Wayne dropped, oh okay, that's cool. I'm at that one. I've been, I wrote, I rode the wave this long. Hey, my favorite rapper dropped. I mean, he dropped. That's what's up. I'm gonna go listen to these 2010 hits, he 2012 hits, and call it a day. Uh-uh. It's crazy you said that because in fact, like, Nas, right? Nas still be rapping. The people still run to those albums. Because Nas still like it ain't, it don't feel like it's a drop-off. I don't understand why it feels like it's such a drop-off playing. I don't know if it's the other stories that we get about like the like right now when we're talking about him not showing up the tools, or is because it ain't like Wayne was ever that in the uh get deep personal rapper. So it wasn't like he his his uh material, his material changed, his topics changed. None of that's ever that ain't happening. So I don't know why it's like there's a big drop off with Wayne. Because like now, Jay-Z out doing these these pop-ups, and uh he got the shows up at uh Yankee Stadium. People want more music from Jay. Jay ain't dropped it since 444, and I don't forget how long ago that was when he was on that uh even Beyonce had to join. Yeah, and then he did uh I can't think of damn, I can't think of the dude the rap. One of Urg about Dude's baby daddy's raps. I can't think of that. Oh uh uh I can't think of his name, but he Jay-Z was on a bunch of them songs, but even that was six years ago, so but yeah, I don't know why it feels like a big drop off with uh Wayne, but it is. Uh I think it's because he's so young, and he's not even young anymore, but like he was young, he came into the game young. When you become the oldest person in the game, you know, you was trying to emulate them. Now that you are the oldest person in the game, there's nobody to emulate. Now you emulating the younger people, and it it just don't fit well. But I'm saying you can still emulate Nas because Nas still got people wanting clamoring for new music from him. But Wayne ain't never now, no offense to Nas. Why would Wayne emulate Nas? Well, what about no no no what about their styles of singular that I need to Okay, not styles, but I'm saying still being relevant years after what people were saying your prime is. That's what I say.

SPEAKER_03 32:10

Okay, that's what I mean-wise.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

Like Nas has progressed in hip hop is still able to drop in hip-hop if people want it. That's what I mean, as far as okay, we could have looked towards Nas in that that aspect. That's what I mean. Okay, change. Because I never Wayne never gave me like business man, like ho. No offense. I'm sure he got other business benches, but I'm just saying, outside of looking in, Wayne never gave me I'm a businessman. Hell, Nas is a businessman. But uh Wayne was bird man's son of that man. So we're gonna go into another member of the uh uh YMCMB. Anyway, Drake.

Drake Daughter Claim And Streamer Drama

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Drake got a daughter out here. Oh that's what Saucy Santana said. I'm just repeating what Saucy Santana said. Sauce Santana said Drake got a daughter. Is that not what you is that ain't what you heard? I heard it. I heard Saucy Santana say, uh, I don't respect you, you just Drake's daughter. Um he was coming at Ben the Don. Ben the Don was on stream with his pops, and somehow, for some reason, they started talking about speaking on Saucy Santana. Um Saucy saw that. Saucy or is it Santana?

SPEAKER_01 33:33

Saucy Santana.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

I no, no, no, I I get it, but just to shorten it, do you say saucy? Santana. Did you say I think I'm gonna say both? Because I'm not calling another man saucy. And I was just doing a five shout-out to Joe. I'm like, man, I'm cool with me. I'm cool with who I am, but calling another man saucy. Saucy, not sauce. Saucy. Nah, I'm like saucy. They saw saucy Santana, they started speaking on Bird's name, and you know, I guess he was trying to explain to his pops that's a dude, or you know, whatever, whatever. Saucy clapped back and said, yo, keep my name out your mouth. Y'all two grown men talking about another grown man. Find y'all some business. You Drake's daughter. I I don't I don't respect nothing from you. Calling this man Drake's daughter, crazy wild. Crazy wild. Like, even calling him his son's wild, but his daughter, oh, you took it to the extreme. I didn't even know he be on be up Drake's leg like that. Then we saw another video with the with the chick. Yeah, you and his daughter for real. That man told you to turn your stream off. With Drake, with Drake, uh, Drake hung up. It was like, hey man, what you do? But Drake. Okay. I think in that situation, Drake wasn't expecting the camera to pan to be on to get on his phone, yeah. He was like, Okay, I'm on your stream so the people can hear me, but I don't want the people to see me because you just had I see what got going on. And if I'm jerk, I might get up too. Because hey, bro, what are you what are you doing? You got my block hot. You know, listen, you know I'm jerking. You know it's out the blood, well, you know what I'm saying, situations that I got out here. You blowing up the spot. Hey, bro, you drag this. My phone's gonna be on fire all night. Y'all know I'm busy. You ru hey, you ruined the whole night I had with her playing because of the fact you your last three pictures. I'll let your cameraman. Hey, nah, stay over here. Stay right there. Stay right there. You know, you know I'm gonna hit the cameraman as a cameraman. You know, you know I'm on the phone with Drake. They can hear me. Ain't no reason to I didn't tell you to come here. Hey, is Drake on the phone? No, no, no, no. I'm over here, and you saw him turn the phone a little bit when the cameraman got out closed. What you doing? Calm down. Cameraman and Kendrick fan. Who's the who uh been the dye or the cameraman? Who's more around? Because I feel like it's been the dye. I think the cameraman he got a little greedy. The cameraman worked for Ben. He's a little too happy though. To run over where he took some steps over there. He had to walk. I'm not gonna say he had to walk from where he was at to go over and and in video. If you the cameraman and you know he's on the phone with Drake, that's what you supposed to do, though. You supposed to get get the Drake footage because that's gonna help the channel. I feel you, but Ben the Don. I got my cues. I turned the phone around if I want you to know I'm talking to Dre, and I put it side by side. You knew what time it was. But Ben the Don could already be like, Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. He could let them know. Hey, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 37:01

No, no, no. No, we good, we good. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 37:05

You ain't you see some fine shit on the phone, and you got happy too. You drew that's hey, this is the one, this the one you tell man, especially after the you been you was just called Drek's daughter. You gotta, you gotta. That's another reason why I'm like, yo, it's really on him, because in fact, you gotta chill. Honestly, I don't know if I would have been on the phone with Drek on my stream as I just got called Drek's daughter. I'm just gonna keep it all the way to buck, bro. I don't know if I'm gonna do that. Yeah, but let's spin it back to South Santana. I don't feel like Sassi Santana was in the wrong. No, but it been the he said when he's he could have been a football player, but instead he started shaking, he started getting her short shaking teddies, and then he said, Look, he on her with a bust down. Those is jabs. Well, some see Santana went to 10, right? You took it to 10, took it to 10. A lot of that going around. Took it to 10 when he said, Now you jerk startle, and continuously going on, like it ain't brought up ballot points. You on a stream with your daddy, you should be showing your daddy some other some some women. Why you looking at why you looking at a nigga with long hair and nails? Your mama ought to be ashamed of y'all. What's the 10, bruh?

SPEAKER_01 38:32

Like, was 10 necessary? You threw it a mama shot, too.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

You already called a jerk's daughter. Then you're gonna say your mama should be should be ashamed of y'all, not just you, your daddy too. 10 is necessary sometimes. It's necessary. I'm not hey, every everything Sopsi Santana said was valid, not disagreeable, none of that. But damn that you have to come to 10. Because I already I only feel like Ben the God was saying his stuff was malicious. At least it didn't it didn't occur to me. It was jokes that necessarily it's jokes that you make with your pops, I feel like you and your pops sitting there, but that's the thing, when you're famous, you're a string on you can't be you gotta be smarter than that. You gotta be smarter than that.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Would you collab with Ben the uh Ben the Don?

SPEAKER_02 39:22

Uh I mean, I don't I I personally don't see no problem with bruh. Exposure. You got the fan base, you got the famous friends. I'm right there with you. Now, if you get on some funny shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, nah. But I Ben the Don, him, I don't see nothing wrong with him. Uh I'd go on a DDG stream. That's your boy, so I wouldn't I wouldn't surprise. That's your boy, that DDG joke. What's the what's the boy's name? Uh uh, not Aiden Ross. Oh, your boy's back streaming too. Kai? Kai's back. I wouldn't go on Kai though. You wouldn't go on Kai? I don't really feel that ain't my vibe, man. Um I I fuck with everybody else in the group, but not everybody.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

Hey, uh, who else is the name?

SPEAKER_02 40:17

Uh Duke Dennis. Yeah, that's the one. Channel. That's the only one I know is Duke Dennis. I fuck with channel. Uh them boys be cool, but yeah, Cost Nanny. I don't want to come on your edge. But I only know Duke Dennis because of him. We talked about him on the pod one time. I forgot what he did. Uh, what did Duke Dennis D? D did do something. But uh, would you Sauf to Santana? Sauf Santana was like, I mean, I'm gonna do the interview on the mix of a spot. Not even gonna hold you, come through. Rolling? Come through. Because I'm rolling. But I didn't know if you was wrong. Yeah, no, I ain't got no problem with bruh. Bruh's cool, bro. Let it be known. Hey, he liked what he liked. He I'm not what he liked. That's cool with me. He said he liked, he said he liked either the the dudes, the that's you know, dudes, or he liked the the females. That's dudes. So you sound like you're just a nigga anyway. So I fuck with you, bro. I feel it. He said, I ain't all fuck with straight men. Exactly his word. I'll fuck with straight men. Yeah, and what I always say, I ain't gay. Last time I checked. Yeah, no, I think I'll uh stop the tell that he would be a dope. He would be a dope interview. Because as you see, he goes to T expeditiously. So he gon' be he gon' be ready. Uh last time gets it without further ado.

BET Awards Debate Kendrick vs Everyone

SPEAKER_02 41:48

I I mentioned I mentioned it on the last Meet Bas Pie, but I really won't touch it. Kendrick Lamar War Hip Hop artist, uh hip-hop artist, male hip hop artist of the year.

SPEAKER_03 42:04

Kendrick Lamar ain't dropped in two years.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

I was gonna leave it alone, but I was talking to my little cousin yesterday. I don't know, you I was you did you hear his conversation? I didn't, I was I was there, I didn't necessarily hear this conversation. My little cousin said, because he's a jerk fan. I ain't gonna my little cousin is a jerk fan. And then I happened to be telling him, like, hey, look, it's like Kendrick Ma's dope if you gotta give him credit. But he was like, he ain't dropped nothing though. So how he how he went out of male artists of the year again, it's like five, six years in a row. And I said, Well, you heard what Drake said. Kendrick, Kendrick just opened his mouth. Somebody give him a Grammy right now. Well, same thing. Somebody give him a BET award right now. Uh I don't, this is from my perspective, and I could be wrong. Only thing he really did was the clips feature this past year. Imagine he was on tour and the songs continued uh to charter, whatever the case might be. But I don't really think he should have been hip hop artist of the year. The previous year, the year before that, okay, cool, I'll rock with y'all. I can see it. But this year, I definitely do not think it should have been Drake. I mean, it should have been Kendrick Lamar. I also don't think it should have been Drake. I said the album just came down here. Yeah, so Drake next year. If Drake don't win it next year, it's nonsense. But I was asked you, what did you what's your thoughts on that? You feel like I'm tripping? Oh, no, no, no, bro. I think the PET awards is tripping. So once we decided we wasn't gonna watch it, um I was all the way out. I should have been out once I saw that they gave Angel Reese the Autumn Awards in the uh in a row. We should have known then our PET Awards is just canceled. It's just it's just clickbait, they just doing stuff. Now I don't know that they gave Kendrick the same. Award six, seven years in a row? For what? Yeah. And I know, like, before he dropped not like us, it's still been what five, six years since he had anything? Yeah. Well, what what are we doing? Uh damned. Damned in the pimple butt or the pimple butterfly then damned? Nah, yeah, it was pimple butterfly. I think he had one in between. But all right, let me, these are the nominees from this past year. ASAP Rock. Uh Baby Kim, Kendrick Lamar's cousin. King, sorry, baby King. Big X the Plug. Dub Baby. Don Tower. Drake. J. Cole T.I. Drake got nominated. Drake got nominated. Drake shouldn't have been nominated either. He hadn't dropped 24. He hadn't dropped 24. Before, you know, Iceman. Uh, L those names that I just listed, who do you think should have won this year? Honestly, Big X the Plug. That's what I was thinking. It was either. If Tia's album had to drop earlier, because T has album just dropped. I'm gonna have a review for it on the next five. But Tia's album just dropped. If T has album had to drop sooner, because the single he had was killed up the streets for a little minute. But it was it, bruh. It wasn't. I ain't gonna hunt you. You stop what we do. When I still hear it now, bro. I hurry up and skip the TikTok, bro. Wow. I heard it this morning. I hurried up and passed it.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

Yeah, bruh. The song's pub. What we talking about? Oh, you ain't no tip.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

Just hey, bruh. Just snitch behavior, bro. I just don't, bro, bro. Alright, bro. I don't rock. So you think big ass the plug should a war? I think so, bro. Honestly, other nominees, it's who you gotta give it to. I mean, he he had I was hearing his commercial everywhere, the biggest, the largest. I was hearing that every day. My choice would have been between him or Don Taliban. The reason I'm Don Talib is because Don Taliban got Don Talib does jump. Matter of fact, he performed at the B, he performed at the BET Awards and then went and did a sold-out show at L Reef that same night. Don Tollum? Yeah. I ain't heard his music in a minute though. Don Taliban. I keep saying I'm gonna listen to him because my son swears up and down. You try to put you on? Huh? Yeah, try to put you on? To Don Taliban. Then also uh King Carson. I don't know about him. I don't know about him. I don't know about him neither. But look up, same cousin I was talking to. He said, you know your son listened to him. I'm like, I don't even know who that is. Who is that? He said he rapps. He ain't that good though. King Carson. Yeah, I never heard of real before. But apparently my son listened. So now I gotta go listen because that's the responsible parenting thing to do. But at the same time, I'm in this weird spot, bro. It's like when I was that age, I had to start listening to my I don't know, bruh. Don Talib would have touched the kid. Well, Don Tal would have got to the kids? Yeah. Ain't that he's a hardy yourself?

SPEAKER_01 47:32

How old is Don Tolliver?

SPEAKER_02 47:34

I feel like Don Tolliver been out. I could be wrong, but 10, 10, 12 years? Swer. If I'm not mistaken, if I'm thinking, fuck, I'm thinking right. I know I ain't tricky. Don Tolliver came out born in 94, 28. Okay, 2018.

SPEAKER_01 47:59

Oh, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:00

Yeah, yeah, he started raping 2015. So yeah, that's right. But first, big first drop 2018. So what's that eight years ago? So yeah, I mean I don't know. I got I'm gonna get I tell him, I said I'm gonna give I tell you his name. I said I'd give the list. But I've been saying I'm gonna give it to him listener.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

Are there no girls still making music?

SPEAKER_02 48:24

Yeah, and he he said I'll tell you, boy. He's with uh ASAP. ASAP, right? Yeah, he with A. Not ASAP, uh Travis. Travis, yeah? Yeah. I said ASAP. Yeah. That's all I got, man. Without further ado.

Zeus Boxing Ray J And Clarissa Shields

SPEAKER_02 48:41

Today's edition of High Fox is brought to you by, you know, just a good green air, man. H2O. CO2. Hi, H. I ain't even got no tree over here. Hey, bro. I'm just puffing on whatever's in my lungs right now. It's air, man. Um, they're gonna keep it short though. Short, sweet, you know. Uh Ray J Span in the news. You're not gonna talk about him in the box. Yes, bruh.

unknown 49:16

I'm not watching, man.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

Did it already happen? It ain't happening yet. No, I think it's uh August, early August. So why they already doing the waves? It's on uh it's on Zeus. It's the Zeus, Zeus pulling this one. So they got Ray J versus uh versus Orlando Brown. They got uh Big Lex versus uh Tatiki. That's uh you don't know them, that's Christian. So that's Christian's sister. Uh Big Lex. Not Tatiki. That's what she looked like. She looked just like it. Okay. And Big Lex is like she was she came into the baddies a couple years ago, but she was a heavy hitter. Like she was coming through. She was the the the thump. She was the air forest, and you come through, you need some ass whoop. I got you. Big tall, she played basketball, tall, light-skinned joint. Man, they they supposed to be, you know, celebrity buys. They got a couple other matches on the card, but we just saw how this Ray J thing went. Not even a month ago. This was two weeks ago, I think. Three weeks ago at the max. Why why we give him Ray J this? Why we still give him Ray J money? Why? It makes no sense to me. Orlando Brown sitting up here calling him, you just brandy's brother, the whole time. And then they just it just started getting real real suspect. Then they start getting in each other's face, and then oh, Sashi Santana was the host. Sashi Santana said, What y'all finna do? Kiss? Like, what's going on? Then they just it it got a real real real crazy. Um, said you're not gonna watch it. Come on, bro, stop. You know damn well I'm not really watching this. I'm gonna see the clips online. I'll probably keep keep scrolling. You said why they keep giving him checks because he he already Zeus already gave him checks. He's part of the Zeus brand. Oh, this is him. It's he gotta do this. You got no choice, but my thing is most boxers they take like a year off between their next fight. Like you said, bro was just in the hospital talking about I ain't gonna be able to walk again, type shit, after his last boxing endeavor. So all of a sudden he break through it again. Ah, bro, I'm not. Hey, I can't speak for nobody else. I'm not watching. That's just me. What you can say, I thought you was dead, man. I thought you was good. Why are we why are we still doing this? Ray J. He's supposed to be in the RSVP group. What's it? Uh him, Sammy, Bobby Valentino, and uh Pleasure Pm. Go make some songs. Just go go make some songs. Just go do that. Like y'all could come up with some songs, y'all can be the opening act for the pretty Ricky Tour. I mean Bow Wow and B2K. What just go do that? This ain't what you gotta do whatsoever. I don't know, bro. I'm not watching this. This is bro, honestly, bro. This is a this is a big card. This is the Clarissa Shield card. Yeah. She boxing, she done made a bit. Okay. She got a her boxing events through Zeus. It is this one. This one is she was trying to get it Remy mild here. Remy said, I'm not going. Remy's not boxing her. Good play. And I that's no shake to Zeus. You know what I'm saying? They do they they got a good platform on their or they got their platform on their. Well, it's a good platform, but I'm saying like that. But the Reg J and Orlando Brown fight is a special featured undercard attraction on the Clarissa Shields versus K-Scott boxing event and will be exclusively broadcast on the Zeus Network August 15, 2026. That's what's up. Shout out to Clarissa Shields getting that Zeus badge. Shout out to Clarissa Shields. You see her in PAP at the BET Awards? Yeah, that's right. Did you see you see both videos? I didn't see I didn't see both. I just seen the one where she was doing all the waving and stuff, and he just was just stone faced. And everybody was like, he ain't he won't be here, blah blah blah. There's the other video out where the actual award show started. And he was uh he was happy and dancing and like yeah, you finally have people and stuff like that. He was just trying to get to his seat. That's how it will. I see cameras, I'm just trying to get to my seat. I'm trying to get to my seat. Once we get her for the actual award show, because he also said that she got robbed, she should have won Sports Woman up here. She said that last year. That's what made us even question what was going on with that. And he said that she should have won it this year. Covert. MVP champion. What are we talking about? And I'm not saying like Carissa Shields is a break boxer. She's gonna go down the history of one of the best female boxes of all time. Well, we're not gonna do it like Asian Wilson ain't that stick. Like we're not gonna do exactly like Asian Woods. Then we could have had a conversation about Carissa Shields this year. Every year she should have been in the league, bro. If we don't keep it a mean. But like, I get it. The first couple years, the first that one year. I think Serena won them early ones. Yeah, but I'm talking about what Angel Reese won one. That's when it was the having the racism situation with Cathy McClark. Cool, I understand why BET had it. They went with Angel Reese because some back earlier that she was going through. But well, after that.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

After the first two.

SPEAKER_02 55:22

Angel Wilson out her just killing the game in the shoes. People back. I ain't gonna lie, them uh them regrets hard. Them progress was hard. Bro, I'm mad that you can't get them because I I ain't even say I'd go out and battle lady's shoes. But them was like a special just for her. Bro, let me tell you something. If them if them things hit the stores, oh yeah, I'm copying. Off the rip, my boy. I'm copy. Because them things, them Asia Wilson brought bread joints was hard, bruh. Thanks. But yeah, no, I don't think Clarissa Shields got robbed. I think it was actually Wilson's work. So knowing that Clarissa Shields is on the card, does that change your mind? I will not scroll back to the match. Every other match on that card.

unknown 56:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:15

No, you might look the the the the big legs to Siki, I think that one might be uh you might enjoy that one. That's an actual two two hitters, two people that can actually fight. If I find out who they are ahead of time. But they can fight because they boxers. This is a boxing. Yeah, that's the thing. They can fight, they not boxers. You watch boxing for real. They they they fighters, they fight boxers. But this is a boxing. I think, I think they but they not, that's the thing though. They they can fight. They not the ones that's kicking, you know, pulling hair, putting you in the hair. I know these are straight haymakers, these is hands-to hands, which is why they got them fighting to begin with, because they was like, well, who who was really the big the big bad wolf over here? So this is just to settle that. But uh, yeah, no, you know, I send you the link. Like I said, you send me the link. Just want uh Clarissa get up, right? Let me know. We don't want to see Ray J at all. Betty A, give the Tashiki and Big Legs. That's what you said. Cool. Send me the link with Thanksgiving. But you get warmed up into the Clarissa Shields, and no, I'm gonna cut, I'm gonna cutting the Ray J stuff off. Oh I think that was first, though. I think it's Ray. Okay, cool. That's he that's he for bell. I think it's gonna Ray J, the girls, and then Clarissa. Okay, cool. Put me, I'll put me down. I'll watch. All right, bro. I'm not Ray J was just in the hospital, bro. I'm not doing this, and then Orlando Brown be tweaking for real, and not in the box. Yeah, bro. He was up and just saying all kinds of stuff, bro. He told us, Why are you talking? So I said, I'm the host. Saucy is making him. Hey, bro, he better watch what he's playing with. Saucy said we already see South Santa South Santana go to team. Don't do that. Don't do

Final Thoughts And Sign Off

SPEAKER_02 58:09

that. But hey, with this being said, it's been another episode of D Mick Spice Podcast, your favorite amateur podcast. You can find us wherever you get your podcast, like Apple, Spotify, Pandora, they love us over there. You get the Instagram, the Facebook, the Twitter for questions, comments, concerns. Oh I'm your boy Yank by HT the Dream, and I'll holler at y'all. Well, you already know the guys, it's your boy, Mr. Bell. I can't say your name up on the spot. Bye now. We'll catch y'all on the next